President Obama, caught in the machine:
I had a sense that I never had before from the president of being defeated. That he felt like, 'You know what? I can't really make a big difference in this office.' He spoke about the stream and being part of a stream in history and you can't turn things around.But he still wants to act like he's got power...
He does say at one point, you know, he says to his staff, 'we run the biggest organization, the most powerful organization in the world.' But on the other hand, he speaks as if he's a man caught in the maws of a larger machine, and he is not able to make a difference. And I thought, boy, that's not the Obama that I heard of in 2008.